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did five, 10, 20 years ago become cheaper. the technology is better, the energy, all of the construction designs are better so that you can do these things that once cost 26 billion and those kind of dollars from apollo, you can do it for less money now. but you keep the dollars going for new technologies, things that are harder to do, things that we couldn't do in the '60s and '70s, and '80s and build some of these new boosters. then you will do what nasa perhaps always intended to do, go beyond the edge and create a base of technology that someone else can come by and do space taxis to orbit or to the moon and private access. that is a sign of what they should be doing in the future, which is keep pushing new technologies, keep the funding high enough to keep the right people working there. >> that's a key, isn't it, jim? i mean, it was kind of a cool thing. i mean, when you got into space engineering, i mean, if you told somebody you worked at nasa or for heaven's sake, you were an astronaut, it was a really cool job. is the problem now that space travel and nasa i
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